who all trains and what disipline?

[bionic redneck]

i started bout 2 months ago.. at an ATT affiliated school. and i love it.. its a blast.. i prolly wont fight for another 16 or so months.. tryin to drop to 200 and bulk back to 220lbs .. build speed,my POWER, my reflexes, and my techniques and get in alot better shape..

[MMA Guru]

Wow, that's awesome, I don't do anything. I suck. I would love to, but can't right now. But I'm 5'7" and 195lbs and would train BJJ if I had a choice. I'm a grappler by nature, wrestling in HS so BJJ would be most natural for me, can't throw a punch to save my life! :lol:

[Misfit]

He's right, he can't throw a punch. :shock:

I will just grab my background from another site when I can.

[Rich Davie]

I've been studying SMF for decades now... I think I'd be considered a black belt by now. :lol:

[bionic redneck]

whats smf?

[MMA Guru]

He's right, he can't throw a punch. :shock:

I will just grab my background from another site when I can.

Lazy and an asshole. Huh. :o

[Mr.Blue]

hey people

i train in:
wing chun
chin na
kickboxing
eskrima

and i used 2 train in:
kyokushinai karate

[Misfit]

Welcome to the site Mr. Blue. I miss training Eskrima and Kali.

[Misfit]

I have trained a few different system, I trained at a school that was Mixed Martial Arts before it was called MMA and it wasn't a sport. We just tried to play with what worked. Since that school, I've been training Silat from time to time. The following is a reply I made on another site but I don't feel like typing all this crap again.

What is Silat???

First off, Silat is a very generic term in Indonisa for Combat (I think). Kinda like Karate is, there are tons of different styles of Silat as is Karate. It's not like Karate at all but just a generic term like Karate is.

Not all Silat is good, that I can promise. I have seen some really, really shitty Silat out there. Some if it is more like dancing and is really gay. But let me start with my background, I have been studying something for about 20 years now. I have always wanted to study a system that got my shit out of a fire. Don't care about the sport aspect of my art or really the tradition, I want something that would save my ass and the ass of my friends and such.

I started with a Tong Su Do (SP) school when I was 18, worked my way up to my green belt test. You should have seen the stupid shit I could do back then. All sorts of stupid flying kicks and such, really, really gay shit now that I look back. Day of Greenbelt test, we were told we had to break so many boards and such with different strikes. I don't remember the number but it was around 5ish. It was really easy if I could just hit the fucking board but the jumping over guys with a flying side shit kicks was the hard part. Well, either way, I aced it, landed all my stupid flying shit and broke every board. But it was also one of those schools that taught kids and I had some 10ish year old taking the green belt test with me. He couldn't break a single board but still passed as I did. That was the last day I went to class, it told me that my green belt had no value nor did the school.

Next stop was Universal Kenpo when I was in my early 20's. It was a Professor Buell style of Kenpo, I like it at the time but really can't stand it now. It formed a lot of bad habits. I liked the aggression of Kenpo but it's not something I would want to try when I 80, nor would it work IMO. They also did some pretty stupid shit when I look back at it now. Well, I ended up moving to Ohio for about a year so I had to quit.

When I came back, I wanted to study something again. I saw something called Tai Kung Fu in the Yellow Pages and at the bottom it said "Don't Be A Victim" It was a school ran by Kerry Central. Kerry also had a Kenpo background but more of an Ed Parker style. However, Kerry was also learning under Joe Simonet whom is a very, very skill martial artist, 100% head case at the time but still damn good. He was an Al Tracy student way back in the day but we he had learn since then was really good shit. He was really skilled at non-classical Wing Chun, fuck it, I will just add his bio since this has already turned into a fucking book that I'm writing.


Joseph Simonet began his martial arts training in 1972 in the study of traditional Japanese Karate. During this time, Mr. Simonet was an avid weight trainer and power lifter. In 1973, Mr. Simonet began his study in Tracy's Kenpo Karate. At the age of 21, Mr. Simonet was managing a martial arts studio in Kirkland, Washington. With an open mind and an insatiable thirst for knowledge, Mr. Simonet spent the rest of the 1970's exploring several martial arts systems.

During the 1980's, Simonet started teaching his Karate Innovations in Seattle, Washington.
Consequently, this was also a time when martial arts seminar and workshop opportunities exploded. It was during this time that Simonet discovered Filipino Kali Escrima and Wing Chun Gung Fu. He also participated in many such seminars including, but not limited to, Jeet Kun Do (JKD), Savate, Tai Chi, Silat, Muay Thai, and Arnis. Thus KI Fighting Concepts emerged.

In the 1990's Mr. Simonet began his formal training in Pentjak Silat Tongkat Serak, Yang Style Tai Chi, and Doce Pares. Simonet is now an 8th degree black belt in Tracy's Kenpo Karate. He has attained 2nd degree level in Grand Master Cacoy Canete's Escrido. He also became Master Chris Petrilli's first black belt student, in 1998. Simonet has since attained 4th level black belt under Chris Petrilli in Doce Pares. He is a certified instructor in Yang Style Tai Chi under Dr. John Candea and a Guru with a 2nd degree black belt in Pentjak Silat Serak.
Mr. Simonet reached black sash level in Wing Chung Gung Fu during the late 1980's.

Mr. Simonet is quickly becoming an influential voice in the martial arts world today. His expertise in varied arts can be seen and learned through his video and DVD library from Paladin Press such as: The Mook Jong Slam Set series, Silat Concepts, Advanced Silat Concepts, Beyond Kenpo, Ultimate Sinawali, Wind and Rock Training Camp II, Extreme Wing Chun, Linking the Lines, Six Seconds of Controlled Insanity, and Gathering of Eagles 2001, Meet the Masters. Simonet also co-authored a book on Silat with Michael Janich. He is writing two books with Unique Publications to be completed spring of 2006.

After over thirty years of sustained effort in his training, Mr. Simonet has formulated his conceptual thinking into his own hybrid system called "Art and Science of Mook Jong".

This is a complete martial arts system, functional at all fighting ranges and utilizes practical application of empty hand, club, and knife fighting. All stemming from his own sixty-second form, called the Slam Set.

Mr. Simonet is also a highly publicized, nationally acclaimed martial artist making many public appearances and seminars coast to coast. He frequently appears in national publication magazines such as Inside Kung-Fu Magazine, Black Belt Magazine, Martial Arts Training Magazine, and has authored over twenty published articles.
Simonet has been featured on four covers of the Paladin Press catalog. Mr. Simonet has made frequent TV appearances such as Fearless on OLN, ESPN and VH1.

Simonet has also trained celebrities and musicians such as ex-NFL player Mike Utley, Duff McKagen bass player for rock group Guns n' Roses, Scott Weiland, lead singer for Stone Temple Pilots, and Dave Kushner from Suicidal Tendencies. Scott, Duff, and Dave have teamed up with Slash and Matt to become the world-class rock band Velvet Revolver.

Joseph Simonet continues to strive for the refinement of his martial arts expertise.
Mr. Simonet is truly a person whose pursuit of his life's dream has never wavered. His new hybrid system "Art and Science of Mook Jong" will no doubt change the course of the martial arts to date. He will have added to the "gene pool" of the arts.


What this did, is change Kerry's school to more of a crossover school and this was a good few years before UFC 1. It became an eclectic blend of martial arts, if Kerry felt it worked, we played with it. The Wing Chun became the foundation for our hands, I still think it offers the best hands of any martial arts as far as blocking and entering. Well being that we were in Colorado Springs and about 60 miles south of Denver, this little event came along called The Ultimate Fighting Championship that both Kerry and Joe went up to see. Both of them swear that the tooth went right in front of them ;) But what this did was now introduce the ground game to our school, we didn't have it before November 12, 1993 but we started playing with it on November 13, 1993. It was just another little piece to put into the pot. So we had Wing Chun hands, Filipino weapons, Kenpo intensity and a little bit of grappling and such. This school had no tradition, just shit that we thought would work. I ended up getting black belt in this school and taught for a bit at it. I'm very proud of earning this belt even though I have since thrown the belt away, the belt has no value to me but earning it does.

Like I said before, Joe is a bit of a headcase but damn good at what he does. Here are a few vids of him doing shit. What's funny as fuck and really quite sad, is he sells a ton of videos but in just about all of these videos, he using his girlfriend as the training partner. Addy is good but it has always seemed silly doing martial art videos with a girl. So we always called them how to beat up your girlfriend videos. We have also talked about hiring a few midgets and create a "how to beat up midgets" series but once we sober up, we never act on it. I still think it could be a hit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bE71o21NpQ&feature=player_embedded


Him talking a bit about MMA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ7pw9-4ZWQ&feature=player_embedded

Ok, so if you are still reading this damn book. The only reason Joe was in the Springs was cause he was learning Silat from my next instructor, Guru Bob Vanatta. And now we are getting closer to what Silat is?

In this next vid,you will see Joe moving some more, it's actually a pretty cool vid IMO. At least 50% of it is Silat IMO.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GiGexQGDVY&feature=player_embedded



I actually got pretty good at a style of Silat called Tongkat Silat but since I have moved, they are leaning towards more of a Serak Silat. I know it a bit but I am no were good at it and have a shit load to learn.

Now back to What is Silat? To me, Silat is the art that you can do in a phone booth because that's where it's going to happen, in close and tight. It's very much a blade art but 90% of the shit works fine with out cutting somebody. There are 3 very simple things to Silat - Base, Angle and Leverage. You need 2 of the 3 for it to work, if you get all 3, you win. Silat has a shit load of throws but I think the throws are a lot worse than something like Judu cause you are typically throwing/twisting the body in a direction that it doesn't really want to move.

Base - it is both your base and their base. A lot of the movement in Silat such as the entries are to steal your opponents base. If you go back and watch that last vid again, watch the attackers legs/hips and base. Hopefully they would have a good base going into the attack. What most will see is Joe hitting or blocking the guys and working "technique" for that. Now just look at the attackers hips, as soon as you see their hips get kinda fucked, that's when Joe has the advantage. If the guys hips don't really move, Joe is just muscling a technique which he can do but shouldn't be. Please watch it again and see if you can see what I'm talking about.

Angle - This is the angle in which you will be taking your attacker. An angle can lead to taking his base or taking his base can lead to finding you an angle. If you have taken the base first, you DON'T want your angle to be something that give him his (or in the case of Joe) her base back. The angle can change during the throw or while the leverage changes. A lot of times, the easiest angle is the attackers 3rd point on a triangle but it's not always the best angle.

Leverage - If you have their Base and a good angle, leverage is easy. Most of the times you just have to turn your head or hips and the take down happens. If you only have Base, the Leverage is a bit more work but can still work. The key part is that "it's a bit more work". That's why it's best to have 3.

So, if you go out there and watch any of these Silat videos out there, some will be good and some will be bad. Sadly, a lot of them will have the attacker that's a past soccer player and dives like a mother fucker. A good Silat player can make it look really easy like Humble said. If you want to see if it's real or not, look for Base, Angle and Leverage in the vids. If the attacker is in a good Base when he attacks and the guy defending doesn't do anything to attack that base, the attacker is most likely a past soccer player. But if you can see the defenders entrance disrupted the attackers Base, it's most likely legit. Let me know if you find any that you think is legit or BS, I would love to see it. Shit, silly me, no way in hell nobody made it all the way through this shit. I don't even know what I'm at.


But I will end with a funny story of how Joe met Bob. Joe is a big boy while Bob is about 6" and 190ish tops. I would guess more like 180. This is Bob on the left.
http://www.savate.biz/bobpaul.JPG

So Joe comes to the Springs to see what this "Silat" stuff is. I'm guessing this is very early 90's, maybe 91ish. Like I said, Joe can be a bit of a dick but he can back it up 100%. The fucker has the size, the look and some crazy fucking skill. Bob only has the skill and is damn near the nicest guy I have ever met but do not cross him, he can still be very nasty but that's another story. So anyways, Joe's in the Springs from Washington state and asks to meet Bob. Joe comes over to Bob's garage and asks Bob what is this Silat stuff, of course he's trying to intimidate Bob, it's what Joe does and works 99% of the time. Bob's likes, hell I don't know, what do want to know. Joe's responses with something like does it work and I want to see it. Bob's response was "throw a punch". And I think before Bob even finished the "CH" in punch, Joe was throwing big time. Like I said, that's how Joe operates. Bob does something that we call a #5 and drops Joe on his head while his feet were still 4 foot in the air. So while Joe is laying on the concrete floor, he look up and asks Bob if he could show him that again. Bob says yeah but throw the punch a little slower next time and helps him up. Joe packs up his then wife from WA and moves to the Springs to study Silat under Maha Guru Muda Robert Vanatta (yeah, I just call him Bob) and then teach my instructor at the time, Kerry some of Joe's shit.

If it seems like I'm bashing on Joe, I'm really not, it's just how he is. From what I understand, he is off drugs and drinking now and most important, off of caffeine. So I'm sure he's easier to be around nowadays. And the guys is a bad ass dude when it comes to fighting and skill. But he still does Joe shit by saying he learned Silat from Pac Vic when it was actually my current insturtor Bob that taught him. He also says he's a Guru in Serak Silat when he's actually a Guru in Tongkat Silat. Yeah, it a whole pissing match between Pac Vic and Joe, Bob just stays out of it and has moved on.

Again, I really doubt any of you read this but since asugar asked, I figure I would do my best to explain my understanding of Silat.

Brian

[bionic redneck]

that is awesome.. wish they had a place down here in texas to learn that ....

[Misfit]

There is a really good guy in Laredo I think, how far away are you from there?

[Icelander]

I've practised a wierd mix of stuff. I started of with Judo at the age of 6 ... had a brake until i was 11, started with classic Jiu Jitsu , but i injured my hand and droped of just before orange belt. After that i started practising Aikido ( and i still do ) 2-3 years i ago i started practising Sport Jiu Jitsu(SJJ) and BJJ. Then i started doing Muay Thai and MMA. I am currently practising BJJ, SJJ and occasionally spar some submission, MMA or thai. :mrgreen:

[Misfit]

Nice mix Icelander and welcome to the site.

[MMA Guru]

Hey Icelander, noob here, what's SJJ???

[Woodzulu]

Tae Kwon Do and BJJ but now a girl scout could KO me...

[lightsout]

I have a black belt in Tung so do, It was from when I was like 12 so not sure i maintained the info lol... recently I have been Training in American Jiu jitsu, and Jeet Kun Do... Have had training in Judo as well.

[Rich Davie]

A Bruce Lee fan I would guess ? :thumbup:

[lightsout]

absolutely, at our gym we bow to his picture every day before and after practice..

[MMA Guru]

absolutely, at our gym we bow to his picture every day before and after practice..

Freakin' awesome!! BTW, nice sig!

[lightsout]

Thank you, likewise

[Yaowong]

I wanted to do everything at the same time like the pro mma fighters.. and after 2 weeks of intense training... i realised this is a tough sport to master... my body gets sore all the time after each training... and ive been giving myself almost impossible goals... so now im just sticking to jiu jitsu and some body building...

[Rich Davie]

Welcome to the site Yaowong ! :thumbup:

[mmalaskan]

I very rarely do anymore, but I did A LOT of boxing back in the day, and I was quite talented at it.

I did wrestling, too, but I didn't like it and never did that well.

But boxing...I was good enough that many, many boxing trainers that knew me got very, very angry when I decided to stop competing in it.

I love boxing and all, but I'm not dumb enough to base a life on it, even though I was told I had the capacity to go pro if I had stuck with it. See...being an athlete is like being an actor or a writer...even if you are really, really good, you can't bank on being successful, and more likely than not you will end up unnoticed. Making money in any of those professions takes a lot of luck on top of skill, and I didn't want to depend on luck.

sorry, I went off on a tangent. Long, pointless pot-induced ramblings aside, I box...ed.

[Misfit]

You box'd and were good. :D :lol: :lol:

[Discipline]

not involved with any martial art right now but would love to be and will be shortly. i know i wont be able to sprout into a ufc champ anytime soon if at all but i love the discipline behind it and the arts themselves. i would like to think im athletic enough and a fairly quick learner so i could handle it. hope to find out soon though.

[Red-X]

I originally trained in boxing before moving onto kickboxing, I train at my local kickboxing Gym although when I'm not there I study at home by either reading books or reading online articles,watching videos. I also train in a small bit of MMA when it comes to Grappling and submissions, although both are poor and need work. My city lacks the necessary clubs when it comes to training MMA, so I make do with what I get by visiting the MMA session down my local boxing club every saturday. A class recently started nearby named KMF which has a bit of grappling and submissions involved, so I'm considering visiting it tomorrow to learn some new techniques and see if they can find any weakspots in my current training.


All in all I'm best at boxing with my secondary training at kickboxing, I find it easier to use my boxing footwork and feint punches to trick my opponent than I do using regular kickboxing.

Random tip: I'm a big fan of comics and originally I wanted to learn how to fight to help people who couldn't... Lol.

[Misfit]

Random tip: I'm a big fan of comics and originally I wanted to learn how to fight to help people who couldn't... Lol.
Nice :lol: :lol:

Welcome to the site Max, look forward to hearing more of your takes. :thumbup:

[Icelander]

Hey Icelander, noob here, what's SJJ???

Sorry for the super late answer, i've been busy with training and school and haven't realy had the time for internetz.

So , Sport Jujutsu is basically a mix of Sport Karate ( Punching and kicking , but is semi contact ) Judo and BJJ. It's semi contact , no straight punches to the face, you can't knock people out and there is no punching on the ground.

You either get 1 point (wasari) or 2 points(ippon) for punches and kicks. Circular "punches" and kicks are allowed as long as they are not "fullcontact". If you score a Ippon in all three series you win on technical superiority.

I think SJJ is pretty fun, i like fighting with the guy and it's very technical. The drawback is that it's all on the judges who winns or losses. Even thou you might be the better fighter you still might lose because the other guys better at "scoring points".

In this aspect i realy prefer submission wrestling, MMA and BJJ because a win there is mer definitiv.

Here is what it might look like. Im the guy on the left. The pale, shaved guy :) I won that competition
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[Icelander]

For got to say that you get 2 points for a "hold" and 3 points for a submission. Difference is that you have to keep the "hold" for 15 seconds but if you get a submission the judges stand up and start from standing.

[Misfit]

Hey Icelander, noob here, what's SJJ???

Sorry for the super late answer, i've been busy with training and school and haven't realy had the time for internetz.

So , Sport Jujutsu is basically a mix of Sport Karate ( Punching and kicking , but is semi contact ) Judo and BJJ. It's semi contact , no straight punches to the face, you can't knock people out and there is no punching on the ground.

You either get 1 point (wasari) or 2 points(ippon) for punches and kicks. Circular "punches" and kicks are allowed as long as they are not "fullcontact". If you score a Ippon in all three series you win on technical superiority.

I think SJJ is pretty fun, i like fighting with the guy and it's very technical. The drawback is that it's all on the judges who winns or losses. Even thou you might be the better fighter you still might lose because the other guys better at "scoring points".

In this aspect i realy prefer submission wrestling, MMA and BJJ because a win there is mer definitiv.

Here is what it might look like. Im the guy on the left. The pale, shaved guy :) I won that competition
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Not sure how I missed this but thank you very much for sharing Ice. Pretty cool stuff.

[Humblefan]

I don't train anymore but I used to train in training myself to learn how to train. Its didnt really work out very good so I had to stop.

I do workout a lot though, and I aspire to finally get off my ass and try to train in SOMETHING! I like Muay Thai and when I was in college I did take a Tae Kwon Do class as an elective for some credits.
The teacher was an Olympic Tae Kwon Do trainer and let us know that everyday........he was a fucken tool. I looked at the hot girls boobs bounce more than anything....lol

I'm sorry I didnt take this question seriously.

[Misfit]

When I was in band camp...

[scotiagoodwin]

Old school...boxing was my thing.
Too old,too busted up,too burnt,lol
I just watch others do it now,much easier on these old joints that way....

[mmaJEDI]

Muay thai for 1 year and jujitsu ( when i was alot lighter ahaha ) for 6 months , trying to get back into shape though and im a kick ass KEY BOARD WARRIOR !!!!!!!!! ahahhah

[Misfit]

Nice Jedi, my keyboard is an HP 5187 URF+ and it can still bring it. ;)

[The_Fighter]

I'm a striker by nature. But, am fully comfortable on the ground, I got good submissions from a variety of positions.

177cm tall, 70kg fighter. Knockout power (go me), great strength (made Aus Nationals '08 for olympic weightlifting), speed, agility, and most importantly aggression and high pain threshold.

My father said to me yesterday when he saw me throwing some knees into the bag, "Boy, I reckon you were born to fight, just like your brother." Thanks, Dad. Love ya old man.

[Skycosis]

I've actaully been training for about Six Months now in Kickboxing and Submission Wrestling. I Train at Team Quest Fight Club. It's actaully been going really well since My coach is Ryan Schultz and Matt Lindland and ocassionaly about twice a week its on of the other Pro Fighters who train there. I havn't had the oppurtunity to really test my skills in the tournament yet so I can't really say that I'm "good" but I'm good enough to beat virtually everyone in my class (except the coach).

[Misfit]

That's pretty cool Sky, you are learning from some pretty good guys and welcome to the site buddy.

[Discipline]

cool deal sky. your under some decent g uys so hopefully youll get down to it soon. best of luck. keep it up and keep US utd.

[RagingBull]

I train at the minnesota martial arts academy. I have been doin thai boxing for 2 years and gjj for 1 year and also wrestled for 1 season. Im gonna start training in mma pretty soon but i wanted to get a good set of skills before i went and got my ass kicked to bad

[Edamus]

I've trained in Jeet Kune Do for over 2 years and Jiujitsu for almost a year. I've also trained a bit in Filipino Weapons, Muay Thai, Silat, Shooto, Submission Wrestling, and Wing Chun.

I've had one kickboxing match -- which I lost via decision. It wasn't even close, haha... The guy had about 20 pounds on me and due to me cutting and missing weight I was exhausted. I plan on kickboxing again come May at a IKF meet in Amateur Muay Thai.
I've also done No-Gi competition and am currently (1-2). I won my first match via guillotine and lost my second match due to points in overtime; lost my final match to the NAGA National champion due to arm-bar.

I am not built for MMA -- I was electrically shocked when I was 6 and am missing a few fingers -- but want to give it a try regardless. Jean Jacques Machado is one of my personal heroes for overcoming a similar disability.

:D

[MMA Guru]

Ed, dude, great story and glad to hear it isn't keeping you down. I'm not going to go back and check if I did, but I might have said I don't train and I don't. I'm not even close to having the ability right now, but I'd LOVE it. Impressive list of disciplines my friend!

[Misfit]

Very cool and if I haven't said it before, welcome to the site. I had an instructor at a MA school I was attending that had lost part of his hand. He wore this glove/mit type of thing over it. We called it getting hit with his stub. HOLYCRAP, that can hurt. His name was Blake Dulling here in Colorado Spring. He was a complete bad ass, sucked to spare and so on. Since then, he got into Tai Chi and does more of that side of things but the fucker can still fight, that I can promise.

Props to for not letting anything hold you back buddy. I once worked Silat with a guy that was in a chair. He was up in Denver, can't remember his name. But if that dude got a hold of you, he came flying out of the chair and seriously crawled up your ass.

Again, welcome buddy.

[Edamus]

Thanks for the welcome! I've lurked on the forum for awhile since being invited via facebook and really like the people and opinions here -- you know, none of that disrespectful nonsense. So, again, thanks for the welcome!

I've met quite a few people who blew me away with their ability as a Martial Artist with a disability! I met this one guy who was missing his forearm and was still sparring with the best of 'em. The key to Martial Arts -- Mixed included -- is to enjoy them and never take the fact that you participate in them for granted.

[Misfit]

I'm glad you are happy with it buddy. It's what we push the most. Respect. It's not that hard, we respect the fighters and the members as if we were having a beer with them.

May I ask where your Silat is from, who did you learn under and which style?

[Edamus]

Mainly Maliphilindo Silat -- under Guro Dan Inosanto and Guro Ron Balicki (Dan's son-in-law). I've never trained with Guro Dan (I hope to when he comes to Atlanta in the summer) but I have had the pleasure of training with Guro Ron in seminars. Mainly, though, I train with Sifu Scott Shields here in Charlotte who is a certified instructor under Guro Dan in Jeet Kune Do and Filipino Kali.

Kali -- also known as Escrima -- is the weapons combat from the Philippines that uses sticks. The great thing about Kali is that it translates into Knife and Dagger and Empty-Hands easily. Any move you can do with a stick, you can do with your hand.

Maliphilindo Silat is a broad name for the combination's of Silat that Guro Dan trained in -- so, as for the specific ones, I don't know their names. I've practiced ones where you're sitting on the ground, as it's mountainous and muddy on some of the islands so a fight would generally end up on the ground anyway. So, they devised a system where you begin sitting. There are others, but I'm not sure of there names -- they are hard to pronounce and even harder to try and spell! Haha... My favorite though has to be with the Sarong -- that kilt looking thing that can be used as a weapon. It's freaking devastating!

[Misfit]

Very cool, I did a couple of seminars with Guru Dan in Vegas. His Silat comes from Paul and Victor de Thouars. Danny started out with Paul then moved over to Victor, last I heard Danny was still training under Victor. However, Victor has burned a lot of bridges over the last 5 years, wouldn't be surprised if Danny was one of them. I'm learning under Maha Guru Muda Robert Vanatta, he's actually more of a friend versus an instructor to me. Bob was awarded the rank Guru Warisan (Heir) to Victor but again with the burning bridges part. After a bunch of years together, maybe 20ish, Bob left Victor. Now we are using more of a Guru Stevan Plinck silat style. Guru Stevan had the same thing happen to him but under Paul. The whole family is a bit odd. I had Willem de Thouars tell me to my face, never trust an Indonesian. Funny as hell and he didn't even crack a smile. Only time I've ever seen Uncle Bill not smile. He does more of a Kunto Silat but his movement is just amazing. It's kinda like Danny with sticks, just freaking scary.

[Edamus]

That's really cool! Currently I train Silat about 5% of the time -- not enough time with school and work. But, I enjoy it thoroughly. A lot of people don't seem to like it because it can be complicated and it's not the norm. I disagree, but I'm just me! haha...

I'll definitely check some of those people out and I'm jealous that you've gotten to train with Dan...

[Misfit]

I haven't "trained" with Danny, he was just teaching a seminar with my instructor Guru Bob. Bob introduced me and as he was teaching the class, he would come around the throw me down. So, I've been tossed by Danny and such but not directly trained with him. He actually had a tall, thin balding guy that spent most of the time with us. Again, well worth the seminar just to see him move with a stick in his hand, freaking scary.

[Edamus]

Well, I consider having seen him in person a honor that I am truly jealous of. I just read your first post on "What is Silat?" and I apologize if I seemed condescending on the Maphilindo Silat -- you definitely know your stuff...

[Misfit]

Not offended in the slightest buddy. I'm just happy as hell that there are a few more people that know what Silat is. :D

[siggies]

Yo yo yo...
Alright...
I do MMA. Thats it. I once did karate when i was 8, but i dont remember anything from then :( . I train everything. As much as possible and as long as i need to. I first started doing youtube vids to learn BJJ (Tenth planet channel!) but as i got too good for my friends with no training i decided to join a MMA school and attend grappling classes... Big problem, as it turns out, I LOVE striking.... Its pure sex when im hitting the heavy bag. So now i dedicate all my time (home, school, gym) to MMA... Its what i like and its what i do. I can strike, although i dont have the power so i mainly look to take your legs away. But my forte is the ground. You name the sub, i can do it. You name 2 subs and imma find a way to transition from one to the other... A lot of MMA guys only know the basics (triangles, armbars, ect...) so i like to use things that no one knows the escapes too (think Bolt loch, Teepee, Twister, Twist-o-plata, and Suicide choke). Anyway im rambling... But yeah this is my favorite sport and this is what i wanna be good at... I have my first fight coming up this month.... I should be good cuz i fight in the 152 and under catagory (145 for me). I only spare guys who are 165-185 ( and even a 255 if its a bad day at the gym) so im not worried that anyone is going to manhandle me... only that my nerves will make my technique go to shit :(

[Misfit]

Very cool Sig, you need a couple of more posts to get rid of the damn pink belt ;)

[Discipline]

PINK.......nice misfit. i thought you were kind of joking haha.

[BortnikBox]

Silat sounds bad-ass, Ive heard very little about it but this will be a cause for a days worth of Googling sometime soon. Is it effective?
I spent 3 years freestyle wrestling and , with intermittent Greco and sambo tourneys mixed. Somewhere in the beginning of college (I'm 22 now) I decided to pursue girls, beer and overall poor well-being so I took a 2 year break. I got back into wrestling but something was missing so I went to Muay thai for 2 years up until I ripped a ligament in my knee, playing soccer after muay thai practice ironically. Its been almost a year since then Im looking to get back, but only into Muay thai and maybe some sort of
My heart will always belong to freestyle but it's too restriced to be efficient in a real or MMA setting, with the very important exception of monstrous control and takedowns. On the ground, wrestling habits can hurt you real bad , I've found.

[BortnikBox]

And yes, the pink belt is simply atrocious, Misfit. My quote doesnt help things either, man.

[Misfit]

Well, there are a lot of shitty Silat places, sadly I would guess more bad versus good but I think you say that about most arts. Silat is also a very generic term, maybe meaning Combat but I can remember so their are a lot of different types of Silat out there. Some is more dancing like, cool to watch but I think it would get your ass kicked in the street. As far as in MMA, I think with my Silat, I could get most of the guys in the cage....wait for it.....there's a catch......and here it is. Silat is a blade are meaning I always have at least 1 blade on me and with that blade, I like my chances against most people. But it is an art you can do empty hand also but it's not set up for any type of sport stuff. Strictly self defense. We had "cheatin is good" on the back of our Silat hats. There's a story behind it but it is what it is. Look up Uncle Bill and Silat and see if you can see him move a bit. He's a blast to watch. Damn, I guess I need to fix the links on all the vids I shared earlier.

[Misfit]

Ok, I fixed all the links on post 3 here so you can watch the vids with Joe.

[Discipline]

anyone wathc fight quest? they show alot of martial arts. pretty good show to learn about some of the arts you know notihng about.