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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickass32 View Post
    It's the way it should be though.....innocent til proven......blah blah blah
    But just because they are provisionally suspended, doesn't make them guilty. The final decision does, if the fighter is unable to prove innocence. When a fighter has a positive test, that's a sign of guilt right there and it's then upon the fighter to prove innocence surely? No?

    I get that it sucks when a fighter proves innocence, but transparency of the procedure needs to be paramount too......and keeping it secret is not that. There is no perfect system ever going to be in place for this, it just seems too complex to please everyone......but if it can't be perfect, it needs to be transparent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluenoseGreig View Post
    But just because they are provisionally suspended, doesn't make them guilty. The final decision does, if the fighter is unable to prove innocence. When a fighter has a positive test, that's a sign of guilt right there and it's then upon the fighter to prove innocence surely? No?

    I get that it sucks when a fighter proves innocence, but transparency of the procedure needs to be paramount too......and keeping it secret is not that. There is no perfect system ever going to be in place for this, it just seems too complex to please everyone......but if it can't be perfect, it needs to be transparent.
    Yes but we all know as soon as someone is "provisionally suspended" they are guilty in the eyes of the public regardless of the outcome......there needs to be a middle ground but I'm not sure what it is, but old school "lynching" like what has been happening isn't the way to go IMO
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    The UFC 230 lineup continues to shuffle, and the latest change takes place in the heavyweight division.

    UFC officials today announced that Poland’s Adam Wieczorek (10-1 MMA, 2-0 UFC) has stepped in on short notice to replace Russia’s Ruslan Magomedov and will now face Brazil’s Marcos Rogerio de Lima (15-5-1 MMA, 4-3 UFC) on the night’s UFC Fight Pass-streamed early prelims, which precede the evening’s FS1 prelims and pay-per-view main card.

    The source has confirmed with Magomedov’s team that visa issues were to blame for his withdrawal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickass32 View Post
    Yes but we all know as soon as someone is "provisionally suspended" they are guilty in the eyes of the public regardless of the outcome......there needs to be a middle ground but I'm not sure what it is, but old school "lynching" like what has been happening isn't the way to go IMO
    Yeah, it's tough to see how it can be fair, but now any fighter pulling out of a fight will have the 'did he piss hot' question linked to him(or her!) At least as it was, only those who did piss hot were accused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDawg_04 View Post
    The UFC 230 lineup continues to shuffle, and the latest change takes place in the heavyweight division.

    UFC officials today announced that Poland’s Adam Wieczorek (10-1 MMA, 2-0 UFC) has stepped in on short notice to replace Russia’s Ruslan Magomedov and will now face Brazil’s Marcos Rogerio de Lima (15-5-1 MMA, 4-3 UFC) on the night’s UFC Fight Pass-streamed early prelims, which precede the evening’s FS1 prelims and pay-per-view main card.

    The source has confirmed with Magomedov’s team that visa issues were to blame for his withdrawal.
    So many of the Russian guys seem to have visa trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluenoseGreig View Post
    Yeah, it's tough to see how it can be fair, but now any fighter pulling out of a fight will have the 'did he piss hot' question linked to him(or her!) At least as it was, only those who did piss hot were accused.
    Fuck I don't what the answer is.....let 'em all fight regardless
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDawg_04 View Post



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickass32 View Post
    Fuck I don't what the answer is.....let 'em all fight regardless
    Yeah, me too, it's so fucking unworkable really. The solution may well be to let them continue to fight until the process is done, but that would likely lead to lawsuits if they are finally found guilty!
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